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Getting Spider-Man Right Takes Great Power and Responsibility

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“With great power….” — yeah, we all know what comes next. It involves a paternal figure, a science experiment, and one of the weirdest looking costumes in superhero history. The friendly neighborhood Spider-Man has become a legend in his own right, and deservedly so. After 57 years, he’s been in numerous live-action movies, dozens of cartoons and video games, and an insurmountable amount of comic books. With the monstrous growth in superhero movies, there have been three distinct live-action adaptations, each with their own voice and style. It makes sense that his character would change depending on the creators and the social and political climate; each brought their own flair, and everyone has their own opinion to who is the best one. The obvious answer is Tom Holland’s, but the other two aren’t without their merit.

It’s also not enough to focus on Spider-Man alone — a lot of attention needs to be put on Peter Parker as well. Spider-Man is a witty, confident man of action; he saves babies from burning buildings, mocks his rogues gallery, and simply acts like a smart-ass. Peter Parker (depending on the writer) is best known for his mild-mannered and demure personality. He’s the kind of character that can’t catch a break, who with every step taken is pushed back two. He’s meant to represent that individual in each of us who just wants to be safe in his own world. Spider-Man was designed so that it could be anyone under the mask, especially the person reading the comic. This duality makes the character memorable, and special. That’s why, as of now, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse is currently the best Spider-Man movie.

However, the most important thing to note is that the actor can only bring in so much to the role of Spider-Man. A fantastic actor can portray the character poorly, while a fairly unknown actor can create something iconic; a lot comes from the writing and production teams. If the stunts or the visual effects are boring, or if the dialogue is too filled with exposition, then the movie may not be successful. On the other hand, if rewrites are required midway through the production, then the actor’s hands would be tied. That being said, even a good script can’t help an untrained actor, or someone who doesn’t give it their all. It’s a team effort, and everyone needs to do their best.

Tobey Maguire in Sam Raimi’s Spider-Men Universe

Best Spider-Man MaguireSam Raimi proved that Spider-Man can be done in live-action without changing a lot from the comics. He didn’t alter the costume, and took elements from the Ultimate universe — which was at the height of popularity at the time.The battles and drama are operatic and silly, perfectly simulating a live-action comic book. Tobey Maguire comes out swinging, looking the part (he was your average 27-year-old high school kid). His generic and unnoticeable appearance make him suitable for a background actor, and the perfect portrayal for Peter Parker. Despite being smart and generally a sweet kid, he still fails constantly; he never seems to catch a break. His co-stars are also amazing, and help make him look good. That being said, his Spider-Man is…underwhelming. He has the occasional lame quip, and his cockiness doesn’t seem genuine, sounding more like it’s written by someone who read one-liners from a goofy book. His version of Spider-Man has the power and ability, but lacks that key ‘fake confidence’ that this particular superhero always needs.

Andrew Garfield in Marc Webb’s Spider-Man Universe.

Best Spider-Man Garfield

Andrew Garfield’s performance is the mirror opposite of Tobey Maguire. Garfield is an obviously good-looking, brooding, smart, skateboarding high schooler with a degree of fashion sense. Unlike the lame and unremarkable Peter Parker in Raimi’s universe, Garfield’s Parker lacks the awkwardness that the character needs. Though he does have his problems and fails a lot, he just isn’t convincing enough to be that dork. His Peter Parker has enough confidence that it isn’t a grand leap to become Spider-Man. However, as Spider-Man, he knocks it out of the park. His quips are funnier, his power level seems more threatening, and his confidence comes off less stale than Maguire’s. Unfortunately, the character suffered when the production company tried to build a MCU-style universe too fast. The sequel tried to add too many villains and plot points that didn’t help the story.

Tom Holland in the MCU.

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Not only did they get someone this time who looks like he’s in high school, but they got themselves the best live-action Spider-Man and Peter Parker. This is primarily due to getting a talented team of writers, directors, actors, and production teams. Tom Holland wasn’t superstar before he got this role, but he nailed his audition and proved that he can do both parts. As Spider-Man he is agile, confident, making light of the danger. He makes it look as though there’s nothing to worry about, even though deep down he’s terrified, mocking his aggressors and finding creative ways to use his abilities. As Peter Parker, he’s the typical dork — bullied, awkward around girls, likes LEGO, and stutters his way around trouble. He’s smart, but is in constant turmoil to prove himself worthy. When he’s out of that suit, he’s simply a terrified child.

This is where Tom Holland proves he can do both. His introductory scene in Captain America: Civil War perfectly encapsulates Peter Parker and Spider-Man. His goofiness when Tony Stark discovers his secret shows that he’s not all snark. His quipping and fighting in the airport scene sums up Spider-Man to a tee. However, there are two scenes in Spider-Man : Homecoming that can take these two distinct personalities and find the link between them, bringing them closer to one. The first is when Tony Stark, acting as a father figure and mentor, scolds Peter Parker for acting irrationally, just like Iron Man would have in his own start to heroism. After a failed attempt at stopping arms smugglers, Tony Stark confronts  Peter Parker, and the following exchange happens:

Peter Parker: “This is all I have. I’m nothing without the suit.”

Tony Stark: “If your nothing without this suit, then you shouldn’t have it.”

Unlike previous iterations, Tom Holland’s Peter Parker shines, knowing his own inability and lack of confidence. Until he got the suit, he simply felt weak and helpless, and losing it is like losing one piece of his soul. The exchange is powerful, thanks to the actors and writers who knew what Peter Parker was meant to be. The second scene is when he’s in his old suit, and The Vulture traps Peter Parker under enough debris to take out the top-level Avengers. He’s afraid, alone, and has no way to communicate to get help. This beautiful homage to Steve Ditko’s Amazing Spider-Man #33 is the perfect choice. In the movie, he sees his face in the pools of water, and Tony Stark’s previous words fill his mind. After a few breaths to calm his nerves he says “Come on, Peter” and then immediately changed to “Come on, Spider-Man.” This is not an indication that Peter Parker is weak, but that he sees himself as Spider-Man. There’s no distinction between the two entities; he is Spider-Man. It’s a haunting and beautiful scene that gives resonance to the role.

Best Spider-Man

Spider-Man and Peter Parker are very different, but aren’t complete opposites. They share a common thread of fear, which one hides by blending into the crowd, while the other shows off with theatrics and jokes. Whatever team is taking over the role needs to play both parts as different characters, but with a thread still binding them together. No live action representation has done it better than Tom Holland’s. Throughout every movie he has grown as a character, and though he may not be as cocky or as frightened as he once was, this Spider-Man truly knows what it means to have both power and responsibility.

David Harris has lived in Montreal his whole life. He thoroughly enjoys discussing most subjects including the arts, technology, and good food. Being a fan of superheroes since he was young, it's surprising he only starting really getting into comics in CEGEP. He shows a great appreciation for good stories and dialogue, which suits his passions perfectly: television, movies, and graphic novels. As much as he loves the indie publishers, deep down he has always been a fan of the big two.

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  1. Patrick Murphy

    June 30, 2019 at 3:12 pm

    It’s interesting to me how certain people view the character’s film version, depending on whether or not they had previous exposure to him in the comics. But what you said about the success of the role requiring teamwork both in front of and behind the camera is true, and to that end I think no one has touched the Raimi films yet. Holland has a very infectious take, but it feels too fluffy to me – devoid of any gravity, any pathos. Maguire’s version may not mirror the comic portrayal, but I think it’s hands-down no-contest the best film version.

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Comics Editor Allison O’Toole Talks Kickstarter for Wayward Kindred

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Wayward Kindred is raising funds with Kickstarter.

If you enjoyed the Wayward Sisters anthology from TO Comix Press, they have a Kickstarter for its spiritual successor, Wayward Kindred. After holding an open call for submissions earlier this year, Wayward Kindred is pressing forward with its goal to tell a wide range of stories about monsters and families. Previews of the anthology include a cursed skeleton uncle, half-vampire teens, siblings transformed into wolves by their aunt, and sentient insects teaching their language to a human child. It looks like a fascinating mix of different stories and art styles funneled through the captivating vision of monsters.

After editing the award-winning Wayward Sisters, Allison O’Toole is back to edit Wayward Kindred. A freelance comics editor, she’s worked on a growing list of comics, including Jason Loo’s The Pitiful Human-Lizard, Sam Beck’s Verse, and other TO Comix Press publications like volumes of The Toronto Comics Anthology. With a few days left to raise funds, O’Toole was able to speak with Goomba Stomp via email about the Kickstarter for Wayward Kindred and her work in editing comics.

GS: How would you describe your role as a comics editor? Is it a lot of project management and big picture development with some oversight over language?

Allison O’Toole: That does cover a lot of it! The editor has her hands on every stage of the comic, from the pitch all the way to the lettering, so you’re doing the expected editing tasks at each stage—requesting changes for clarity and storytelling, that sort of thing. But you’re also building schedules and chasing after people to get things in on time. Depending on the publisher, you may also be helping out with other administrative tasks and promotion.

Could you talk about your path to becoming a comics editor? What drew you to editing comics versus other career paths with them? (Like writing, drawing, lettering, etc.)

I started out in comics review, and moved into editing when I realized that it combined my creative impulses with my administrative experience. I love to collaborate with creators and to help them create the best comic they can, so editing seemed like the best fit for my interests and skillset!

How did you end up working with TO Comix Press?

When the publisher, Steven Andrews, was looking for assistant editors for Volume 3 of the Toronto Comics Anthology, I was actively looking for more work experience in editing! Part of the mandate at TO Comix Press is to support creators who are early in their careers, so I was able to come on and learn a lot from that experience, so after assistant editing two anthologies, Steven let me lead my own project: Wayward Sisters. It went well, so now we’re working on that project’s spiritual sequel. 

Did the idea for Wayward Kindred come directly from Wayward Sisters, like the name suggests? Or did it originate somewhere else, followed by the realization that it could fit with Wayward Sisters?

I love monsters, so it was inevitable that I’d want to do more anthologies about them. I definitely want to suggest a connection between the two books, but they’re very different! The concept for this one came specifically from reading Nagabe’s gorgeous manga, The Girl from the Other Side, which I was reading while working on Sisters, so I decided that it would make a good follow up, rather than doing a traditional sequel. 

Could you walk us through the process behind developing an anthology like Wayward Kindred?

Well, to keep it short, once you’ve got an idea, coming up with a budget is the next step—that dictates how many stories and creators you can take on. Then you make a timeline. Even for short comics, we try to allow 2-3 weeks for each stage of the process, so you can build back from your target launch date (for us, the Toronto Comic Arts Festival in May). You then can open up for submissions, decide on the line up that would make the strongest book, and get started! Some folks like to do crowdfunding at the beginning of the process, but we like to get that in once we have some gorgeous art to show off. Once the art is all in and edited, you send the proof to the printer, and then fulfill the Kickstarter!

You can learn more about the TO Comix Press method for running anthologies in the articles at our website.

Did you end up pairing unattached writers and artists for Wayward Kindred, like the submissions page said would happen if you received pitches from incomplete creative teams? If so, how did you approach matching artists to writers?

We always accept unpaired pitches at TO Comix Press! It’s part of helping creators with fewer print credits find a place to get published. We go through all of the artist submissions and try to decide which portfolios would bring out the best in the pitched story. Often that means looking for similar stories in the artist’s portfolio, but this is a sense that comes from experience looking and reading many, many comics. Reading comics is the best way to get started in making them!

What have you enjoyed most about editing Wayward Kindred?

It’s always so exciting to see stories come together, especially after months of working with creators. We’re getting letters in now, and I can imagine how the readers are going to feel when they have the stories in front of them, and that’s always a thrill for me.

TO Comix Press has previously held Kickstarter campaigns for other publishing projects. How do you approach crowdfunding for a publication?

We’ve got an article about this on the TO Comix website as well! We’ve found that Twitter is always a major source of income for our Kickstarters, so we do everything we can to get folks talking about the campaign on Twitter. 

What draws you to monsters as characters and a source of storytelling?

I’m interested in monsters’ versatility as metaphor. They can stand in for any taboo you can think of, for any kind of outcast figure, for any kind of cultural anxiety—there are so many rich opportunities for storytelling! 

Wayward Kindred is a spiritual successor to Wayward Sisters.
“Forked” by Seungwoo Baek, Grayson Lee, Cam Lopez and Nikki Powers

Do you have any favorite monsters? Like werewolves, dragons, etc.?

Werewolves are my favourite, I just think they’re very cool. For more specific monster stories, I love Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein, an early example of a sympathetic monster. I enjoy scary monsters, but I love a sad monster the most—that’s probably part of why I love werewolves, too. 

You’re also editing AFTERLIFT for comiXology. What is it like editing for a company like comiXology versus a publisher like TO Comix Press?

Editing a series has fewer moving parts than an anthology, so I like that. In an anthology, you’re editing many more pages, and wrangling many more creators, which can get a bit chaotic. A series is nice because you have a smaller team (on AFTERLIFT, it’s a team of only 4!), so it’s easier to keep track of. Then again, a series usually has a more rigid release schedule, which adds pressure, so they both have their pros and cons. 

Do you have advice for anyone interested in editing comics? 

If you want to edit, I’d say the same thing I say to any creators getting their start: networking is key! If you can’t meet people in person, then join Facebook groups, or forums online, find other folks who are hoping to learn as they go alongside you, and your careers can also grow together. 

If you’re looking to edit and you don’t have a portfolio with comics experience (or editorial experience in a different medium), publishing reviews on a blog is a great way to show folks that you know and understand comics. You can also show that you can keep things on a schedule if you publish reviews on a regular basis. I got my early editorial experience editing at pop culture websites, which wasn’t exactly the same as editing comics, but got me started on scheduling and keeping on top of writers. 

Is there anything else you’d like to say about Wayward Kindred?

I’m so excited about this anthology, and I hope that the readers love it as much as we do!

Thanks again for taking the time to chat. Good luck with Wayward Kindred and your other projects!

Wayward Kindred recently met its Kickstarter goal, but there are a few days left to raise more funds and pre-order a copy. The anthology is available to backers for a minimum of $15 as a digital download. Higher reward tiers include a physical copy and prints.

TO Comix Press advocates for transparency, and they have shared reports explaining how funds were used for a selection of their previous publications: Wayward Sisters, Shout Out, Yonge At Heart, and Toronto Comics: Volume 3.

Wayward Kindred is scheduled for release in May 2020.

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Artist Boya Sun Talks Teamwork in ‘5 Worlds’ and ‘Chasma Knights’

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Five Worlds

This year’s DesignerCon serves as another reminder of how much it’s grown. Originally called Vinyl Toy Network, it now includes a wide variety of art and design, with exhibiting booths for various kinds of 3D and 2D art like sculpture, plush toys, prints, clothing, and books. Among them was Boya Sun, one of the artists behind the 5 Worlds graphic novel series. Sun’s booth featured his work in the form of small sculptures, riso prints, enamel pins, stickers, zines, and copies of 5 Worlds, as well as a slim concept book for the graphic novel series.

While at his art-filled booth, Sun took the time to chat with Goomba Stomp about his work in comics and collaborating with others.

5-Way Collaboration in 5 Worlds

Starting 5 Worlds after graduation, Sun feels that working on the series has made him better at comics.

Described as a mix of Avatar: The Last Airbender and Star Wars, 5 Worlds follows a star athlete, a boy from the slums, and a clumsy Sand Dancer Academy student while their worlds are plunged into peril.

“They have three books out right now,” Sun says. He adds that the series will contain five books in total.

With five impending volumes in a series called 5 Worlds, it’s fitting that the main creative team behind it is a 5-person band: Sun, his fellow artists (and former classmates) Xanthe Bouma and Matt Rockefeller, and writers Alexis and Mark Siegel.

Excerpt from 5 Worlds Book 3: The Red Maze.

Sun shares that 5 Worlds started with the Siegel siblings, recounting how they were looking for illustrators. They ultimately found Bouma, Rockefeller, and Sun, and then sent them the story bible. 

Describing their working relationship as a “5-way collaboration” of artists and writers, Sun is grateful for the partnership.

“It takes the stress away,” Sun says. He explains that if he’s weaker in an area, his teammates can come and help.

Unifying the Art

Sun further explains the art process behind 5 Worlds. Since the series is rooted in fantasy and worldbuilding, he and the other artists start with a few months devoted to concept art and sketches that cover aspects like different planets and new costumes. 

When designs are finalized, the art team splits the script evenly, and each of them gets a section to pencil.

“Our styles work pretty well with each other,” Sun says.

Excerpt from 5 Worlds Concept Book 3, which features development art for Book 3: The Red Maze. It’s available for purchase on Boya Sun’s website.

Sun also praises Rockefeller for inking all the pencil drawings, making them look “seamless” and more unified. Bouma and Sun handle coloring together.

While the concept art for 5 Worlds is often a mix of traditional and digital work, Sun says it’s different for pencilling, inking, and coloring. 

“The final production’s all digital,” he says. Sun adds that making a 5 Worlds book can take about 9-10 months. The team tries to create one book per year.  

5 Worlds poster by Sun. 

Refining Ideas on Chasma Knights

Sun worked on another graphic novel with a smaller team: just him and writer Kate Reed Petty. Together they made Chasma Knights, a tale about living toys that can fuse with people and grant them new powers.

For Chasma Knights, it started with Sun. He had the original idea, and tried to develop it for a TV show or a book. But at the time, Sun was busy with other projects, and he felt less experienced with writing.

Mark Siegel, also founding editorial and creative director of First Second Books, helped Sun with early development on Chasma Knights. Sun says that since they already had a working relationship through their collaboration on 5 Worlds, Mark Siegel was interested in more of his projects. (Sun remarks that while working on 5 Worlds can be time-consuming, it isn’t a full-time assignment, and he can do other projects too.) Mark Siegel ended up connecting Sun with Petty for help on writing Chasma Knights, and later First Second published it. (5 Worlds is published by Penguin Random House.)

“She was very receptive of my ideas in the collaboration,” says Sun when recalling his partnership with Petty. He adds that Chasma Knights had topics that interested both of them.

Working with a writer like Petty had been enjoyable for Sun. He says that he presented his ideas to her, and she “took them, digested them.” When he had been on his own, he found it hard to narrow down ideas. In contrast, Sun found it helpful to talk things through with a writer.

Although they finalized the plot together, Sun says much of the world of Chasma Knights was invented after the scripting stage, when it was time for him to illustrate it.

Excerpt from Chasma Knights by Boya Sun and Kate Reed Petty.

While Petty hinted on her website that she has a new project with First Second, Sun shares that he’s developing a pitch for a graphic novel that he intends to write and illustrate by himself. Of course, this is going on while he continues to work on 5 Worlds. Sun says that the fourth book of the series will launch in May 2020

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A Lost Comic?: Remembering Emily Carroll’s ‘Anu-Anulan and Yir’s Daughter’

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Emily Carroll’s Anu-Anulan and Yir's Daughter

The internet has the potential to be an archive for a phenomenal amount of information and creativity from countless people who share their work. But it’s not an automatically foolproof archive. Take for instance the poignant short webcomic Anu-Anulan and Yir’s Daughter by Eisner-winning author-illustrator Emily Carroll, now missing from her website without comment. 

(Image source: The Comics Journal)

It’s unfortunate, and raises questions. One possibility is that it no longer fit the tone of Carroll’s growing portfolio. She has always been renowned for her horror comics. Her chillingly imaginative His Face All Red put her on the digital map in 2010, grabbing the internet’s attention. She entered traditional publishing with her horror anthology Through the Woods and When I Arrived at the Castle. In contrast, Anu-Anulan and Yir’s Daughter doesn’t terrify; it doesn’t even creep you out a little. It sticks out of Carroll’s horror portfolio as an innocuous anomaly. Without it, her body of work becomes more apparent in its bloodcurdling intent. 

But part of the unique appeal of Anu-Anulan and Yir’s Daughter stemmed from the fact that it was so different from the rest of Carroll’s work. It was fascinating to see her art in a softer context. Her line work soothed instead of horrified. This short webcomic was ultimately a charming love story with fairy tale overtones. 

It starts with the goddess Anu-Anulan in love with the silver hair of a mortal woman, Yir’s daughter. Anu-Anulan shapeshifts into three different disguises — a crow, a child, and a warrior — to trick Yir’s daughter into giving up each braid of her hair. But when the goddess has them all, she realizes it wasn’t the hair she loved. Without a disguise and finally as herself, Anu-Anulan meets Yir’s daughter, whose name is Yorenn. The goddess shows Yorenn that she has made the moon out of her silver hair. In the end, the mortal woman reciprocates Anu-Anulan’s love, and they live a full life together. 

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Anu-Anulan and Yir’s Daughter had the rhythm, philosophy, logic, and language of a fairy tale. It even had repeating lines that were thematically reversed toward the end. But it was also a fairy tale that told a new story with nuance and deeper characterization. How the goddess realized her true feelings for Yorenn was approached with thoughtful and subtle execution, deftly moving from playful whimsy to a dawning self-awareness of a more down-to-earth love. There was a tender montage of the couple living a normal life, celebrating the small moments that build and maintain a relationship.

 “I wanted to show that they ended up in love, but that love needed to include moments that were both mundane as well as passionate—and simply showing a panel of them old together at the end wasn’t enough,” Carroll told The Comics Journal in a 2011 interview when discussing Anu-Anulan and Yir’s Daughter. “And I also wanted to show that it’s not just a single sweeping romantic gesture that makes a love story, it’s also the everyday moments (like having a meal, or taking a walk, or just having a laugh together) that can mean just as much.” 

Besides Carroll’s interesting discussion of Anu-Anulan and Yir’s Daughter in The Comics Journal, other snippets of it fortunately still exist. There are screenshots of some scenes on old blog posts that recommend it. It’s part of a TV Tropes page about Carroll, and it’s included in a scholarly article from the Journal of Multimodal Rhetorics. There’s even a YouTube video that almost preserves the comic in its entirety, only lacking the very last part. These traces are also a sign of the impact that Carroll’s fairy tale romance left behind, ranging from suggestions for a good story to academic study. 

Although Carroll is a master at crafting horror in comics, she also produced one of the best love stories with Anu-Anulan and Yir’s Daughter. She packed so much meaningful storytelling and heartfelt emotion in a succinct and elegantly drawn tale. The whole thing felt like a snapshot of fairy tale logic meeting raw emotion, which then forged a new balance between each other. This short comic held the mythic quality of a goddess and a mortal falling in love, and then contrasted it with the domestic flow of their relationship in practice. Whether or not it will ever resurface in its original form, Anu-Anulan and Yir’s Daughter persists as a fond memory.

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